I recently was perusing my wordpress discover page and came across this article by a Mr. Victor Uyanwanne entitled, “16 Things Every Atheist Should Know.” I read this and wondered why the wordpress entry was directed to atheist when in fact it is merely a preaching to the choir of christians that need some kind of loud voice on the internet. As an atheist, I deal with what we actually know. This is my response to the article and pardon if it is a bit lenthy.
1. God exists – whether you believe it or not.
Fact#1: No one has proven God exists, not even God himself.
Fact #2: Noone has proven that the Judeo-Christian God is a Supreme God of the universe.
Fact #3: No one outside of the Judeo-Christian religion, like Hindus, polytheists, anamists, etc; have proven that their gods exist.
The Fact of the matter is no one has proven god, gods,God, and Gods exist. People have tried and have debated much but have not had concrete proof for the actual existence of their deity. No Christian, Hindu, Muslim, etc, has ever physically presented God.
2. To know God, check the Bible
Fact# 4: God did not write the bible. Humans did.
ok, so why do we need to check the bible? Why can’t we go to God himself? Oh, that’s right, he doesn’t exist. Yet, christians affirm that the bible is the way to know god when in fact its someones opinion about their god or a compilation of one of many gods.
Fact#5 the bible did not have a supernatural origin.
Fact #6 : many of the books in the bible are known to be written by someone other than the titled book name.
The gospels were all anonymous works yet someone attributed names to the Gospels and that’s why we have Matthew, Mark, Luke, John. We really don’t know who wrote the Gospels and that is a fact. Many of the other books of the Old and New testament are similar in anonymity. Other books are written under a false name in order to be accepted as authoritative. In actually checking the bible, it’s true origins , we find that it evolved through the centuries, through councils, through debates. The reality of the matter is christians in general are not told how the bible actually came about. They are given a mystical, devotional, supernatural explanation to affirm their faith.
3. God loves you, I thought you should know.
4. God is not angry with you.
Fact#7: until you can actually prove that god is real, then anything else you may claim about him/her/it is speculation.
This is very interesting. If god loved me, why doesn’t he personally tell me, face to face, real being to real being? Is it because he doesn’t exist? We are real beings and don’t need imaginary love to fulfill us. We need actual visible love from a visible person. God’s love in sending his son to be killed that we may live is not love but sick psychopathy. If that is love, I don’t want it and definitely stay away from me. If you want love from something that kills its own children to express their love for you then please get help.
5. Jesus Christ is the only Way to God.
Fact#8: God didn’t say that, The human writer John did when recounting the story of Jesus.
You still haven’t proven a god exists and anything in relation to it is speculation. You can quote the compiled writings of men but you cannot actually quote the writings of a god. How is it relevant if God didn’t actually say that? Did God himself write the gospel of John? No, some guy did under the pretense of being John, trying to convince the people about Jesus.
6. You are not the first person to doubt the existence of God.
Fact # 9: Duh
I don’t need to comment on this matter. It is clear that people don’t believe and will not believe. This is more evidence in favor of not proving the existence of God. If God were proven, all would believe.
7. The Bible has a word for anyone who doesn’t believe there is God.
Fact #10: This is an opinion of whoever wrote it and not gods point of view.
David wrote it in the Palms. Paul wrote some about wise men being fools in a letter to the Romans. Notice, God did not write this but the men (Paul and David) of religious background did. I bet the muslim would say the same thing in the Koran or something similar. This is indeed a condescending view-point of unbelievers by religious members. What else is new?
8. There have been people who turned from atheism to God.
Fact# 11: Christians have been turned from theist to atheist.
This has no bearing on what atheism is or proving that god exists. Many christians have become atheist. Not just your everyday church member, pastors, evangelists, theologians have become atheists. To name a few notable ones:
Dan Barker, John Loftus, Jerry Dewitt, Seth Andrews.
They too have written books about their deconversions:
Hope After Faith: An ex’ pastors journey from belief to atheism by Jerry Dewitt
Deconverted: A journey from Religion to reason by seth andrews
Why I became an Atheist: A Former Preacher Rejects Christianity by John loftus
Godless: How An Evangelical Preacher Became one of America’s leading atheist by Dan Barker.
9. Your lifetime is your only opportunity for you to know God.
Fact # 12: the only fact about this statement is that we only have opportunities in this lifetime.
Fact # 13: no one has proven the existence of an after-life.
As far as we know we die. Plain and simple. Anything else is speculation. Sure, people like to be comforted that Sally, who died of cancer is now in the heavenly courts living blissfully with Jesus and the Angels. But the reality is her body is in the grave and she is dead. If the after-life is so great, why not commit suicide and be with god? No, no, no, no, no. Suicide is bad and you have to suffer on earth in order to receive bliss in the afterlife. The longterm goal is the afterlife, why not get their quicker?
10. Whatever misgivings you have about God can be handled.
Fact #14 people are born atheist.
I really wanted to comment on this to correct something. People are indeed born atheist. That is what you call an implicit atheist. They are born and don’t really know about god don’t know about god and don’t have any care for god. The only way that people get the idea of god is not looking at nature, not looking at the wonders and horrors of creation. Belief in god is not a natural phenomenon. People are taught to believe in god.
11. God has numerous children and He has room for you too.
See fact #7 and #8,
Again the writer of John, a religion man trying to make people believe in Jesus wrote this. Did God directly say this? no. Someone else did. As far as we have seen, god is not a personal god, if one should exist. It appears he uses secondary or third hand means to try and get the message out. Why not directly speak to us since we are personal?
12. If you die today, where would you spend eternity?
Fact #15 yolo. You only live once.
The paradox of the christian lifestyle is living today so that the life after is the real one worth living. Yet you cannot live life anyway you want here because it will affect the afterlife. The reality of the matter is, I live in this life and can only live it moment by moment in the now, not in the future. How does eternity pay my rent? How does eternity feed my family? This life, the present is what I handle and deal with to the best of my abilities.
13. The question of sin cannot be cured except in Christ.
Fact #16: sin is subjective to religious authority or to those that deem it sin.
Sin is indeed a religious concept and has no real bearing on the decisions we make now. Sin is only sin to those that belong to that particular religious persuasion. What makes sin sin? God says something is a sin and it is a sin. If god were to sin, then would that still be a sin? Killing is a sin. God told people to kill innocent people. God made people sin. God poured his wrath on Jesus Christ, meaning he killed Jesus. He is a sinner. Yet the sin maker is not a sinner because he can make sin whatever he wants and is not subject to the law since he makes it. This is pretty subjective.
14. You are accountable to God, now or later.
Fact #17: the after-life has not been proven nor the existence of god and accountability to something that has not been proven is speculation.
15. There is a future reality called Hellfire.
Fact #18: Hellfire has not been proven.
Avoiding hellfire as motivation for not believing is pretty manipulative. It is like telling those uneducated individuals centuries ago who would clean your house that if they broke any mirror they would get 7 years bad luck. It is indeed superstitious to believe such consequence could happen by not having the same viewpoints. This is one way that religion has held on to many adherents: dire eternal consequences will happen if they don’t believe.
16. Very far from God is not too far yet.
See facts 1-18.
Until God can be proven, then anything related to God, gods, Gods, god, is irrelevant.
Thank you for your time. Would love your feedback.